Oregon Magazine

Can Political Correctness Delete the Holocaust?

  "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good
   men to do nothing"   Edmund Burke

(Below, the text of an email, with a couple of subsequent editorial notations of our own, sent to Oregon Magazine by Roger Edgington, the former commandant of Fort Knox, and former president of Portland State University.  He now lives near  a golf course south of here.)

It is a matter of history that when the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower found the victims of the death camps, he ordered all possible photographs to be taken and for the German people from the surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead. He did this he said, in words to this effect;  "Get it all on record now get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some ******* will get up and say that this never happened.

This week, the UK (OMED:England) removed the Holocaust from its school curriculum because it "offended" the Muslim population.  They say it never occurred. (OMED: the number one name for male babies in Great Britain, these days, is "Muhammed." When they get enough  bodies to take over, Islam will become the only legal religion in England, and King George will roll over in his grave.)

It is now more than 60 years since the 2nd. World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a  memorial chain, in memory of the 6 million Jews, 20  million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, massacred, raped, starved, burned and humiliated while German and Russian people looked the other way!

Now more than ever, with Iran among others claiming the Holocaust to be a myth, it is imperative to make sure the  world never forgets.

(original author unknown to OrMag)

Email Reaction to this post 12/1/07:

   Subject:  your post about holocaust education no longer being taught in england is a lie 
   Date:   Sat, 1 Dec 2007 12:48:00 EST 
   From:    AmGathTogether@aol.com 

this lie has been circulating since last spring, based on a lie told by the Daily Mail in London. It has been debunked daily by the Holocaust Education Trust in England, and worse, the libel was spread to the University of Kentucy because some idiot did not know that UK stood for United Kingdom.

Both the United Kingdom and the Unversity of Kentucky have been wrongly accused.

Jeanette Friedman
Communications Director
the american gathering

Response from Oregon Magazine:

Thanks.  If your version of this is correct, and the Daily Mail, a large and famous British metropolitan newspaper, lied (purposely printed the statement, with conscious intent to misinform their readers), then our readers have been treated to an interesting net-generated scenario, here.  That aside, I am wondering why in your email you didn't mention that Islamic leaders have been widely reported in various American mainstream media to have made the basic statement in question, here: That the holocaust didn't happen. 

While I don't speak any of the varieties of Middle Eastern languages, I have seen the words translated on the television screen, as an Iranian leader made remarks proposing this idea in his own tongue.  I seem to recall a similar statement coming out of Syria, as well.

While exposing the "fraud" in your text, do you also mean to say that the basic charge, itself, lacks probity?  Are you claiming that no Arab leaders have ever made the basic statement at the center of this?

If that is also your (unspoken) premise, here, my personal experience, aside from my respect for the credentials of Roger Edgington, says that you are flat wrong.


December 02/07 Response to our Response, plus our Response:

The issue in question was not Holocaust Denial, and Ahmadinejad is not part of this conversation. This was about the accusation that the Daily Mail, which is far from the most respected British newspaper, created a sensationalist headline followed by a story that got the facts wrong. 

OrMag to readers  We think that without the Holocaust Denial, this entire story disappears. She thinks that this began with what was printed in a British newspaper.  Okay, but, note that how she describes it has changed.

"A lie" has become "a story that got the facts wrong"  Those two concepts, as we pointed out in our first response, are very different things.  This shift, without a clearly audible "whoops !!!" from Miss Friedman looks like an attempt to quietly CYA, here. Note that we just said "looks like."  

But if you are interested in Holocaust denial, I suggest you read the book by Drs. Alex Grobman and Michael Shermer. It's called Denying History.

Ah, yes.  American history and the American press. Also of interest from the latest message from Miss Friedman is the following: You can Google the Children of Teheran, and see how Iranians saved Jewish lives during the Holocaust.  

So, the actions of the past excuse the actions of today?  We wonder if Miss Friedman is aware that Iran was once named Persia, and via the sword cut out a big chunk of the known world for their empire?  Perhaps the past deeds which excuse current actions are only those past deeds which happened during the Holocaust.  The Nazi one (singular), not the Moslem ones (plural).  You didn't know there were other mass butcheries by military forces of civilian residents because of their religious beliefs? There were no other Holocausts where folks were jailed, tortured and mass-executed?  For the fun of it, take a look at who was in charge of the nations bordering the Mediterranean six or seven centuries after the death (and resurrection, the Christians say) of Christ.  

Or later yet by a few centuries, you might look at the reason the evil Christian knights of England/Europe went on their evil, racist, white, male, Christian Crusades.  A hint: Moslem military predations of Jewish areas important to Christians were connected to the situation.

Yessir. A look at history.  And speaking of Moslems ...

We recall the Clinton Era. A place called Bosnia. America and the U.N. supported  the Kosovo Liberation Army.  And what, exactly, was this KLA?  Moslem Terrorists who at the time were, according to Interpol, the 2nd biggest supplier of illegal drugs in Europe.  And the evil Bosnian Christians we didn't support?  They were the folks who when they were young risked their lives to save WWII pilots from the Axis forces.  They went bad after that, I guess.  Turned out worse than drug-dealing Islamic terrorists who were trying to wipe out the Christian Religion in Bosnia with their swords.

Unusual for Arabs to do that sort of thing.  Has anyone here read the Koran?  Did you notice the first thing Mohammed did with his followers?  Here's a hint.  It had to do with a jaunt to Mecca.  They cleaned up the place..

Perhaps Miss Friedman and this "American's gathered together" bunch is well-meaning.  If so, it is our suggestion that in the future they clearly decide what they mean by what they say.  If they mean "liar," they should say so, and offer evidence beyond simple inaccuracy to support their charge.  

Here's the full text of the latest "Americans gathered etc." email     Some of the content seems rational.  If it weren't for the organization name -- which is suspiciously Sixties hippie-style verbage -- and this inability to get the charges straight, we might be tempted to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Finally, from the new email:  

If you want to discuss Islamist fanatics, that's one thing. And Ahmadinejad is not the problem. He is losing power daily.  In Iran this week, they have been running a series on TV about the Holocaust and most Iranians agree and know that the Holocaust is reality. Students at the unversity there stood up to
him last year and told him he was wrong when he spoke on their campus.

We remember a similar student revolt in China a while back.  We are still moved by the memory of a student hero standing in defiance before  a Communist tank.  If there is any accuracy in Miss Friedman's words, above, we have some hope for the land whose government is presently killing American soldiers everywhere they can, and which just recently announced the development of a long-range missle which can reach every American military installation in the Middle East -- not to mention the historic (pre-Islamic) land of the Jews.

Will it be tipped with a nose cone containing the atomic bomb the Iranians deny they are constructing?


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